Tuesday, 23 December 2008

Is America, in 2008, like France, in 1789?

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Is the USA in 2008, like France in 1789?

Norman Gash, at the National Review, 14 July 1989, wrote: Reflections on the revolution - French Revolution

(Norman Gash is a former Professor of Modern History at the University of St Andrews)

1. According to Norman Gash, in 1789 France was the largest, wealthiest, and most powerful state in Western Europe.

In 2008, the USA is said to be the most powerful state in the world.

2. Norman Gash asks: What reason was there for revolution in France in 1789?

Gash relates that, according to Napoleon, there was revolution because the middle class wanted more power for themselves and less power for the aristocrats.

It could be argued that, in the USA, the middle classes are getting restless. They see a corrupt elite enjoying too many privileges.

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3. Gash points out that in France, in 1789, "the climate of opinion was rational, liberal, and optimistic, the monarchy not averse to reform, the aristocracy itself permeated by ideas of the Enlightenment."

Why then was there a bloody revolution?

Gash explains that the 'system' appeared to make reform difficult.

Edmund Burke said that "a state without the means of some change is without the means of its own conservation."

In the USA in 2008, the constitution appears not to be protecting the USA from disaster.

America's institutions seem incapable of preventing wars, discontent and hunger.


4. Gash points out that the French revolution was a long sequence of events, stretching from 1789 until 1799.

There was "an extraordinary series of political improvisations:

constitutional monarchy,


single-party rule,

dictatorship of the proletariat,


and finally military despotism."

If there are to be dramatic changes in the USA, the end result might be military despotism under an American Napoleon.

Napoleon was a fascist.

He attempted the total military domination of continental Europe.

He tried to have a New World Order, or as Gash writes "a new international order".


5. According to Gash, the French Revolution, Napoleon's Empire and the 1815 Congress of Vienna "foreshadowed the Europe of the future."

That means both good things and bad things.

Americans seeking revolution should study Europe's history.

6. Gash implies that bloody revolution was not necessary to bring about change in Europe.

Gash writes:

Even if the French Revolution had not taken place, "common sense suggests that the main lines of European evolution would have been much the same, though perhaps the pace might have been slower."

Gash lists the products of European society which would have come about either by gradual evolution or by fast and bloody revolution:

A. Liberalism based on representative institutions.

B. Nationalism based on linguistic unity.

C. The rise of the sovereign state.

D. The centralization of administrative power at the expense of provincial.

E. The increasing responsibility of government for the welfare of its subjects.

F. The ability to mobilize a whole society for war.

G. military defeats in consequence giving rise to revolution and revolution to tyranny.

H. International conflicts followed by international institutions to preserve harmony.

America is changing.

The changes will be a mixture of good and bad.

The changes will happen, even without a revolution.

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7. According to Gash, the French Revolution helped to shape European society in two notable ways.

A. Force was used to bring about change. "Liberalism and reform marched behind French bayonets."

The ideas of liberalism and reform had many of their origins in England.

B. The awakening of nationalism.

Gash writes that: "ideas that march behind bayonets are rarely popular; reform at the hands of a conqueror earns little gratitude. French rule brought not only enlightenment but hardship."

It was not long before there were nationalistic revolts against the French.

In Germany, later in the century, "Bismarck exploited the German national feeling first evoked by Napoleon I."

Any attempt by an American dictator to bring about a New World Order would result in nationalist revolts.


Monday, 15 December 2008

How do Moslems vote?

Indonesian Moslems

Do Moslems vote for the Islamists?


Over 90% of Moslems, given free and fair elections and a reasonable choice of parties, vote for the secular, non-religious, democratic parties.

1. The biggest Moslem country in the world is Indonesia.

In Indonesia, the great majority of Moslems vote for the secular, democratic parties.

The top two parties are the PDI and Golkar and both are secular.

Militant Islamists usually get around 5% of the vote at most. (aangirfan: Islamic Caliphate myth)

Indonesia is the biggest moslem country in the world.

2. In Pakistan's recent elections, the sucessful parties were not Islamist.

Militant Islamists usually get around 5% of the vote, unless they are being heavily backed by the CIA. (aangirfan: Islamic Caliphate myth)

In the 2002 elections, Musharraf, then supported by the CIA, stayed in power partly with the help of Islamic groups, who reportedly had the support of the CIA.

Bilawal Zardari, son of Pakistan's President.

3. What, you may ask, about the Palestinians?

Israel built up Hamas as a way of weakening and dividing the Palestinians.

Hamas won the 2006 parliamentary elections, partly because the secular Fatah was presented as being corrupt.

Palestinians would have voted for a peaceful, honest, secular, democratic party, if they had had the choice.

4. In Egypt, in 2005, the Muslim Brotherhood gained 20% of parliamentary seats.

The Muslim Brotherhood is regarded as being a tool of the CIA and MI6.

Some Moslems, feeling a strong dislike of President Mubarak, may have been conned into voting for the Muslim Brotherhood.

Moslems are generally peaceful and friendly

5. What about Iraq? Many Sunnis boycotted the 2005 election. Shiah Islamist parties emerged as the dominant force.

But, in free and fair elections and with a good choice of parties, the outcome, it can be argued, would have been different.

6. In Saudi Arabia, in local elections in 2005, Islamists performed well.

But, no political parties were allowed in these elections.

And the Monarchy uses the Islamists to help keep themselves in power.

Reportedly the CIA and its friends aim to take over Saudi Arabia at some point in the future, in order to grab the oil.

So the CIA may be only to happy to promote the sort of militant Moslems who will cause disruptions. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,786332,00.html)

7. In Algeria, in 1991, important elections were held.

The government party was seen as being massively corrupt and massively unpopular.

Voters turned to the Islamist party as a protest vote.

8. In Morocco, the Islamists do not get many votes, except among the most desperate of the poor.

The Muslim Brotherhood, like most such organisations, is reportedly a tool of the CIA and its friends.

9. Malaysia had a General Election in March 2004.

The moderate National Front (BN) won 90.4% of all the seats in parliament.

The big loser was the Islamic party (PAS).

10. In the UK, many Moslems vote Labour.

Blackburn is the UK constituency of UK government minister Jack Straw, who is of Jewish origin.

In the 2005 general Election, many Moslem voters were persuaded to vote for the Labour Party's Jack Straw.

One voter of Pakistani origin told The Independent that Labour kept its hold through the mosque committee. "It is 100 per cent Labour. They control the mosque. They frighten the people."

Moslem Party Parade in Indonesia

11. Reportedly the CIA and its friends put the Ayatollahs into power in Iran.

This prevented Iran from being a secular democracy.

12. Afghanistan was a reasonably peaceful place until the CIA and its friends began to finance and train the Islamist extremists.